If you're seeing Squid generate If-Modified-Since where there was no
Last-Modified, file a bug; that's not right.
That said, double-check that the browser isn't sending it; I know for
a fact that Safari does this*, for example.
Cheers,
* <http://www.mnot.net/blog/2006/04/13/ims_bugs>
On 2007/02/08, at 11:29 PM, John Line wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Henrik Nordstrom wrote:
>
>> tis 2007-02-06 klockan 01:00 +0000 skrev John Line:
>>
>>> Investigation showed that the problem was that the new Squid
>>> version was
>>> caching the temporary redirects (HTTP status 302) sent by origin
>>> servers
>>> to direct unauthenticated requests to our authentication server.
>>> When the
>>> authentication server subsequently redirected the (now
>>> authenticated)
>>> requests back to the originally-requested URLs, Squid served the
>>> corresponding cached redirects instead of passing the requests
>>> through to
>>> the origin servers.
>>
>> Odd. Should not happen.
>> [snip]
>
> I haven't yet filed a bug report, as further investigation showed
> the situation was more complex than it seemed at first. I'd made
> the mistake of taking at face value the response header "X-Cache:
> HIT from omicron.wwwcache.cam.ac.uk"; Squid *was* attempting to re-
> validate the cached redirect, but mistakenly concluding that it was
> still valid.
>
> I'm not sure whether that is Squid's fault, or a problem with the
> behaviour of the origin server and its authentication component.
> I'll try describing the significant details of what I believe is
> actually happening, in the hope that someone with a better
> understanding of the HTTP RFC's rules about caching and re-
> validation will be able to say with more certainty where the
> problem lies.
>
> [This is based on Squid logging, Firefox "Live HTTP Headers"
> extension reporting the browser's view of events, and ethereal
> watching the HTTP dialogue between Squid and the origin server).]
>
> The significant events are:
>
> * browser requests a URL for which authentication is needed (and it
> doesn't have a cookie identifying it as already authenticated
> for that
> origin server); Squid passes the request to the origin server,
> which
> sends a 302 redirect, directing the browser to our authentication
> server.
> * Squid caches that redirect, as it has an Expires: header (though
> it is
> "pre-expired" - Expires: timestamp identical to Date: timestamp
> - so
> (by the rules described in the HTTP RFC) revalidation is needed
> before
> the cached redirect can be served in response to subsequent
> requests..
> * after interaction with the authentication server, the user's
> browser
> ends up requesting the same URL that it originally requested,
> but it
> is now authenticated (via a cookie).
> * Squid apparently sees that the cached 302 redirect response for
> that
> URL is expired (always has been been, the Expires: header was meant
> to ensure even HTTP 1.0 caches wouldn't cache the redirect...).
>
> It's the next bit of the interaction that leaves me uncertain where
> the fault lies.
>
> * Squid sends a request for the URL to the origin server, passing
> through
> the authentication cookie and adding an "If-Modified-Since" header
> quoting the timestamp from the Date: or Expires: header (can't tell
> which, they are identical) of the cached redirect. Is it allowed
> to do
> that? The redirect does not have a Last-Modified: header, so it
> must be
> using one of the others. The request from the browser did NOT
> have an
> If-Modified-Since header, so Squid must have added it.
>
> * Because the user is now authenticated, the origin server does
> NOT send
> a redirect. Instead, it sends a 304 Not Modified response
> because the
> requested document is a static HTML page that was last modified
> a long
> time (days, months, or years) before the timestamp quoted in the
> If-Modified-Since header.
>
> * Squid sends the cached redirect to the browser and logs the
> request as
> TCP_REFRESH_HIT/302. The user is stuck, since re-confirming the
> authentication just results in being sent back to Squid/the origin
> server and being sent another copy of the redirect.
>
> * Note that using squidclient to purge the cached redirect fixes the
> problem temporarily, allowing the already-authenticated browser to
> access the requested document and any other that's allowed by
> the user's
> credentials, but only until the authentication cookie is
> invalidated
> (e.g. by restarting the browser), after which the problem recurs
> (for
> URLs that were being browsed without difficulty until re-
> authentication
> was required).
>
> That leaves me uncertain about where the blame lies.
>
> It seems odd - and maybe wrong - that Squid is using If-Modified-
> Since with a timestamp derived from the Date: or Expires: header -
> surely it should only use a timestamp from a Last-Modified: header?
> Since the cached redirect does NOT have a Last-Modified: header,
> that should mean that Squid cannot attempt revalidation and should
> discard the cached redirect and simply send a normal request to the
> origin server. That would certainly have the right outcome (getting
> a copy of the requested document, as long as the user was
> authenticated).
>
> RFC 2616 says (in section "13.3 Validation Model")
>
> Note: a response that lacks a validator may still be cached, and
> served from cache until it expires, unless this is explicitly
> prohibited by a cache-control directive. However, a cache cannot
> do a conditional retrieval if it does not have a validator
> for the
> entity, which means it will not be refreshable after it expires.
>
> That reads like it is agreeing with me, unless it is legitimate for
> Squid to use the timestamp from another header (must be Date: or
> Expires:) with If-Modified-Since.
>
> Section 13.3.5 of the RFC says (in part) "Thus, comparisons of any
> other headers (except Last-Modified, for compatibility with HTTP/
> 1.0) are never used for purposes of validating a cache entry.",
> which appears to confirm that Last-Modified: is the only header
> which can be used in such comparisons.
>
> Is the problem actually Squid's fault? Or is it the origin server's
> fault for responding with details about the HTML document when
> Squid was asking about the redirect?
>
> I don't see how the origin server could avoid doing that, though,
> since the request from Squid does not and cannot distinguish those
> two cases (i.e. it cannot ask "is this redirect what you would
> currently send for this request?"). Although some requests include
> an authentication cookie and others do not, and different outcomes
> are expected, Squid cannot be expected to know the significance of
> the cookie to the origin server.
>
> I'll file a bug report if responses seem to favour it being Squid's
> fault!
>
> John
>
> --
> John Line - web & news development, University of Cambridge
> Computing Service
-- Mark Nottingham mnot@yahoo-inc.comReceived on Tue Feb 13 2007 - 22:13:51 MST
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